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		<title>Creation and Redemption</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A number of writers have been posting about atonement recently and Crystal challenged me to post something on the topic. It made me think of a paper I wrote a good few years ago on the relationship between creation and redemption&#8211;in particular exploring some of the implications of a theological aesthetics. Along the way it [...]<p>Post from: <a href="http://rmarsh.com">All Things Seen and Unseen</a><br/><br/><a href="http://rmarsh.com/2007/04/04/creation-and-redemption/">Creation and Redemption</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A number of writers have been posting about atonement recently and <a href="http://povcrystal.blogspot.com/2007/04/gustav-aulen-david-hart-and-atonement.html">Crystal</a> challenged me to post something on the topic. It made me think of a paper I wrote a good few years ago on the relationship between creation and redemption&#8211;in particular exploring some of the implications of a theological aesthetics. Along the way it winds back and forth among some of the issues of a theology of atonement&#8211;perhaps denying such a thing is possible. For any who are interested <a href="http://rmarsh.com/files/joy.pdf">here it is as a pdf file</a>. Beware though if you are in a Holy Week mood as it focuses on Easter.</p>
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		<title>Discipleship</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The following talk was given to a weekend retreat group. I begin by referring to a session the previous evening where I&#8217;d shown a couple of clips from the film American Beauty in which the central character, at the point of death, reflects on his life and finds himself moved by gratitude and beauty. I [...]<p>Post from: <a href="http://rmarsh.com">All Things Seen and Unseen</a><br/><br/><a href="http://rmarsh.com/2006/12/02/discipleship/">Discipleship</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The following talk was given to a weekend retreat group. I begin by referring to a session the previous evening where I&#8217;d shown a couple of clips from the film <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0169547/">American Beauty</a> in which the central character, at the point of death, reflects on his life and finds himself moved by gratitude and beauty. I asked the group to do their own reflection:</p>
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<li>What would you like to flash before your eyes in that last second, that ocean of time?</li>
<li>What are you grateful for&#8211;really, spontaneously grateful for?</li>
<li>Where is the beauty in your life and where is it leading you?</li>
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<h2>Called to Discipleship</h2>
<p>I deliberately didn’t pretend last night that I knew what was meant by ‘Called to Discipleship’—it could mean all sorts of things—in general or specifically for this group or individually for me or for any one of you. I deliberately started of our working with the topic last night from what seems to me a particularly Ignatian angle. You start with experience, with life, with memory, with imagination and you let God show Godself there—in beauty, in gifts given, in attraction felt, in desires that grow and deepen.</p>
<p>In a section of the Spiritual Exercises that deals with making discipleship decisions one of the questions St. Ignatius asks—or one of the imaginative exercises he presents—is the one from last night: he says tersely, ‘consider, if you were at the point of death, what procedure and guide you will at that time wish you had used in this present decision’. </p>
<p>You’ll see I’ve already taken a position on our title: being called to discipleship is—at least in part—about making decisions. But before I go any further I want to get your sense of what might fit under our theme this weekend, both in general and for this group specifically. </p>
<p>So for a moment think or re-think about that: </p>
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<li>What does discipleship mean?</li>
<li>What would it mean to be a disciple today?</li>
<li>What about the calling part—what is it to be called?</li>
<li>And what do these two terms leave out that also feels important?</li>
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We did some exchange of experiences and ideas at this point&#8230;
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<p>I hope we’ll get into most of your concerns and ideas in one way or another this weekend… For now I want to keep going with looking at how discipleship is handled in the Spiritual Exercises. I’ve already spoken about one of Ignatius’ major orientations: discipleship is about making a decision—or about continually making decisions. But what kind of decisions and how are we supposed to make them?</p>
<p>If we took his death-bed perspective—or did another thing he suggests and imagine ourselves before God on Judgement Day—if we took that vantage point on our decisions it could feel like we have a tough and threatening God looking over our shoulder ready to ruin us if we get it all wrong. But that isn’t how Ignatius wants us to go about it. The very first time he raises that question of choice he does so in the context of gratitude and of grace. What are you grateful for in your life? How do you feel you have been gifted—even among the pains and problems of life—how do you feel the thread of grace running though your days? It’s in that context—the context of redemption—that Ignatius asks us what kind of response we want to make: what will I do for Christ who has saved me and continues to save me?</p>
<p>Discipleship only makes sense out of an encounter with grace and an experience of real and spontaneous gratitude. And discipleship as a response of gratitude only makes sense if it is freely entered into.</p>
<p>So alongside decision we have to add gratitude and grace. Ignatius’ next word is probably attraction…<br />
There’s an imaginative exercise he entitles the Call of the King—it all gets a bit Lord of the Rings here—the call of the king. He asks you to imagine a king—bring it forward 500 years and make it any kind of person who has a vision and a dream—imagine the kind of person who could inspire you to respond generously, even heroically. Imagine what kind of vision or dream would be worthy of you. What kind of project could catch your imagination? And more—what kind of person could catch your imagination and get you to reshape your life so you can help them do what they are burning to do? Ignatius wants you to do this imaginatively and not just abstractly: what would he or she look like, their manner, their clothing, their look? What would their friends be like? What, in fact, could so attract you about someone that you’d change your life for them? </p>
<p>Got any ideas? … Ignatius does a ‘bait and switch’ at this point and says ‘well how much more worthy and attractive is Jesus and his living out of God’s vision and dream’. Discipleship is about letting ourselves be attracted, letting ourselves desire and need to be disciples—not just in some abstract sense but disciples of this man with his crazy dream for this personal corner of the world. Attraction and desire awake in us a need, a need to be alongside this man—a desire and a need that go beyond the practical. Not just sharing the same project, or putting my money in the same pot, or casting my vote as he would vote, but taking up the same lifestyle: doing what he does, eating what he eats, sharing his hardships, enjoying his victories, mourning his setbacks. ‘What would it take to make you a hero?’ is the discipleship question. Who would it take?</p>
<p>Ignatius roots discipleship in relationship—and relationship that is mutual. Most people praying this exercise only experience an inkling of attraction in a dark and tangled mass of ifs and buts and doubtful maybes but insofar as they feel any desire they discover their vulnerability. I might desire to be with this man but he might not desire to have me with him. We have to be chosen, called. There’s an agonising echo of that schoolyard moment of picking teams— pick me, pick me, pick me, pick me, pick me. We need the call. Not just abstractly—we need to feel our desire met and kindled. Discipleship is only grown in the dance of mutual desire. God and I desiring together.</p>
<p>OK the list is growing: decision, gratitude, grace, attraction, desire, relationship and call. </p>
<p>Ignatius’ next move is to switch viewpoint—or viewpoints—he goes all split screen. He asks us to imagine three scenes. First of all imagine the Trinity in heaven having a conversation… Give it a try … What are they talking about? You have to follow their gaze to find out. They are looking at the face of this round world. So imagine scene two: the world. What do the Trinity see? They see people, they see people in all their diversity, their sorrows and joys. They see us loving and laughing; they see us hurting and hating. They see violence and they see tenderness; care and callousness. They see discrimination and oppression and misery. They see all we see when we open the newspaper or turn on the TV: AIDS and Iraq and climate change and polonium 210. What do you imagine they see, they hear, they feel? What moves the Trinity when they see this planet’s condition?</p>
<p>Back to scene 1. The Trinity is moved to come to our aid. ‘Let us work redemption’, is what Ignatius puts into God’s metaphorical mouth. Which brings us to scene 3: Mary in Nazareth and the mutual risky endeavour entered into by one person and their God. That’s discipleship for Ignatius—both what transpires between Mary and God—the ‘let it be to me as you say’—the asking and the answering—but also what happens ‘before’. The Trinity sees need and chooses to respond. Discipleship always arises from the choice to answer concrete need. Discipleship is always a response to reality, the way something will punch us in the guts with its injustice, its wrongness, its need that things be different. The gospels are always saying Jesus ‘took pity’ on someone or other. It’s a bad translation of a Greek word that also gets rendered as ‘felt anger’, ‘had compassion, etc. But it’s a word to do with spleen. It means feeling that churning in your guts at the wrongness of things that won’t let you rest until you do something even if it’s only weep or rage. The first disciple in the Spiritual Exercises is God, the Trinity. Or from another angle it is Jesus.</p>
<p>Jesus offers an easier way to study the discipleship of God—and to learn our own discipleship. Ignatius urges the person praying to ask, day after day, for a particular gift: to know Jesus better. To know him with the kind of knowledge that is very like falling in love. To know him better, to love him more, and out of all that to follow him. To know, to love, to follow. There’s discipleship. </p>
<p>How’s our list looking? Decision, gratitude, grace, attraction, desire, and call. But also: need and spleen. And, finally, the following, what used to be called the imitation of Christ. This imitation is more than mechanical reproduction, or following a set of maxims, or espousing certain values. It’s not quite ‘What Would Jesus Do?’ But it is about knowing Jesus. It is about knowing Jesus in a way that transforms us—that simultaneously makes us more like Jesus and more like ourselves. That’s discipleship: falling in love with God, with Jesus, so that we can respond to the planet’s need the way he did and does and would do through us.</p>
<p>Pedro Arrupe, the General Superior of the Jesuits before the present one, used to speak about us having a planet to heal. Grand, that! But it’s true. He had another favourite topic too: falling in love and the difference it makes to our lives. Both are about the call to discipleship.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The &#8220;October&#8221; issue of The Way has just been published including my article on the Spiritual Exercises, &#8220;Id Quod Volo: The Erotic Grace of the Second Week&#8221;. I wrote briefly about the core idea a little while ago and if you are interested you can access the full version free, gratis, and for nothing at [...]<p>Post from: <a href="http://rmarsh.com">All Things Seen and Unseen</a><br/><br/><a href="http://rmarsh.com/2006/11/29/eros-attraction-beauty-desire/"><em>Eros</em>, Attraction, Beauty, Desire</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;October&#8221; issue of <a href="http://www.theway.org.uk">The Way</a> has just been published including my article on the Spiritual Exercises, &#8220;<em>Id Quod Volo:</em> The Erotic Grace of the Second Week&#8221;. I wrote briefly about <a href="http://rmarsh.com/2006/11/08/too-attached-to-words/">the core idea</a> a little while ago and if you are interested you can access the full version free, gratis, and for nothing at <a href="http://www.theway.org.uk/Marsh3.pdf">The Way online</a>.</p>
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		<title>&#8216;Firefly&#8217; and Finding God&#8217;s Will</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I used the following reflection on story and discernment a few weeks ago with a group trying to reflect on their own life and ministry together and discern a possible way forward. I'm posting a slightly edited version here...

<blockquote>A little while ago I was given the DVDs of a science fiction show I'd wanted to see but missed called 'Firefly' -- think Cowboys and Indians in spaceships  --  and it's a lot of fun, and very well written, with 8 or 9 well-drawn characters that over the short series grow and take shape and show their stories and change each other in all sorts of ways and hint at secrets and stories yet to be told. Because it was a series that was cancelled part way through. A story with no ending. With loose ends. A dozen stories still waiting to be told. And my intense curiosity about each character and what they still had left to tell, and about the group, the whole, and their collective story which seemed to be going ... somewhere, having some significance. I hate not knowing what happens to Inara. I really want to know who Shepherd Book really is and where Simon and his sister are headed. And I never will. Unless I make it up myself. And that doesn't really work. Because half the pleasure is not in making up, but in appreciating the reality of the characters and the sense that behind them there is an author with a hope.</blockquote><p>Post from: <a href="http://rmarsh.com">All Things Seen and Unseen</a><br/><br/><a href="http://rmarsh.com/2006/06/21/firefly-and-finding-gods-will/">&#8216;Firefly&#8217; and Finding God&#8217;s Will</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We find ourselves in that strange territory after Eastertide has culminated in Ascension and Pentecost. It’s done with. The Spirit has been given once again and, although we have Trinity Sunday, another big feast, tomorrow, the calendar tells us we are in ordinary time. The daily readings have settled down to pastoral epistles, 2 Peter and 2 Timothy and Mark’s Jesus in controversial mode. </p>
<p>This is ordinary time… not ordinary as in plain, dull, ordinary but ordinary as in <em>ordinal</em> – my dictionary says ‘to do with the order things come in’ – these are days known only by their ordered succession, by their numbers—it’s the ninth week of ordinary time—they aren’t about anything obvious, they don’t have labels to identify them—it’s not part of Easter or Lent or any other season—and if they have a pattern it’s often a mechanical one put together by a someone back in headquarters to make sure we read a bit of everything eventually. </p>
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<p>But we are creatures that love a pattern. Human beings can find patterns in the most chaotic mess. Computers may be able to crunch numbers with astonishing speed but try and get them to recognise a face or tell a story and they are a thousand times worse than any four-year old.  We are pattern-making creatures from birth. </p>
<p>When I was a student we had a chaplain who everyday at mass could take the two readings and the psalm and the saint of the day if there was one and weave them together into a quick little pattern, all neatly linked in three minutes flat. The problem was that we all tended to stop and admire his skill and ingenuity rather than listen to what he said. We liked the pattern-maker more than the pattern.</p>
<p>Our ordinary time seems to demand we make it less ordinary. We want to tell a story that gives it significance, finds a meaning, and even points a way forward. We want a pattern in our lives too: we want to see their significance, know their meaning, and make the choices that keep the story alive. </p>
<p>We like our stories to have beginning, middle and end. I always like it when the books I read have chapter titles and not just numbers. I like it even better when they have a little quotation to get me thinking about what it all means.</p>
<p>A little while ago I was given the DVDs of a science fiction show I’d wanted to see but missed called “Firefly” – think Cowboys and Indians in spaceships – and it’s a lot of fun, and very well written, with 8 or 9 well-drawn characters that over the short series grow and take shape and show their stories and change each other in all sorts of ways and hint at secrets and stories yet to be told. Because it was a series that was cancelled part way through. A story with no ending. With loose ends. A dozen stories still waiting to be told. And my intense curiosity about each character and what they still had left to tell, and about the group, the whole, and their collective story which seemed to be going … somewhere, having some significance. I hate not knowing what happens to Inara. I really want to know who Shepherd Book really is and where Simon and his sister are headed. And I never will. Unless I make it up myself. And that doesn’t really work. Because half the pleasure is not in making up, but in appreciating the reality of the characters and the sense that behind them there is an author with a hope. </p>
<p><a href="http://users.adelphia.net/~druss44121/">Mary Doria Russell</a>, writer and novelist, says from her point of view it’s not just about making up either. She says her characters just won’t do some things she asks them to do. The writing won’t work. Her people have an integrity. She had one character, Emilio (a Jesuit by the way), she needed to get back to a certain place. She tried a dozen different ways to write him there but he simply wouldn’t cooperate – everything became false when she did – she lost the plot, as we say. In the end she realised he would never go there of his own free-will and she had to have him kidnapped and taken there by force. Of which she still feels ashamed.</p>
<p>Another of her characters came to her one day in her writing and told her he was gay, something she says she’d never thought about and didn’t really come into the story at all. But her character seemed to want her to know it.</p>
<p>Stories are powerful. Human beings are in need of stories, our own stories, and we have to tell them on the hoof, in the middle of things. With our own integrity as characters. Partly looking back and telling our story to ourselves in a way that makes sense and partly looking forward and writing who we will be, feeling out a future that feels right. </p>
<p>We speak from time to time about finding God’s will, doing God’s will. There’s a low motive attached to that sometimes—we don’t want to get on God’s wrong side—but sometimes there’s something more beautiful going on too. There’s the sense we have—the conviction, the hope—that whatever the shape our lives have taken so far, somehow God stands behind them as the author of a story. Not that God gets to write and drag us along like puppets but that there’s a meaning and a shape and a pattern that God is authoring from moment to moment. And we, we want to be authored. We don’t want to bind ourselves to an unchanging divine blueprint but we do want to co-operate with the story. We want to know the plot and lend ourselves to it. We want to tell the story of our lives the way the author would. Maybe we even want to surprise God by telling him something he’d never expected and nudge the story in a particular way. Either way, we are here, in the middle of things, with our stories unfolding and the endings still unwritten. How will it all turn out? God knows, we say. But God has our freedom and stubbornness to write with too. So maybe God writes our lives with the same hope and expectation we live them.</p>
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		<title>Spiritual Direction: Finding a Way</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just published in the January 2006 edition of The Way is an article of mine &#8220;Receiving and Rejecting: On Finding a Way in Spiritual Direction&#8221;. Thanks to the publisher it is available for download at no charge. Have a look if you are interested. It is a reflection on how we, as spiritual directors, navigate: [...]<p>Post from: <a href="http://rmarsh.com">All Things Seen and Unseen</a><br/><br/><a href="http://rmarsh.com/2005/12/09/spiritual-direction-finding-a-way/">Spiritual Direction: Finding a Way</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just published in the January 2006 edition of <a href="http://www.theway.org.uk/">The Way</a> is an article of mine &#8220;Receiving and Rejecting: On Finding a Way in Spiritual Direction&#8221;. Thanks to the publisher it is available for <a href="http://www.theway.org.uk/thisissue.shtml">download</a> at no charge. Have a look if you are interested.</p>
<p>It is a reflection on how we, as spiritual directors, navigate: what we look for, what we pay attention to, what we receive and what we reject. And on what lies at the heart of the art of spiritual direction.</p>
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I was sitting with my spiritual director a while back, bemoaning the recent drabness of my spiritual landscape, when she asked a question that split me in two: &#8216;If God were here now, what would you say?&#8217;</p>
<p>Two spontaneous responses rose to the surface more or less together. One was &#8216;Pull your socks up!&#8217;&#8211;a slightly irritated demand to God to tidy up my life and fix some of the health problems that have been besetting me. The second was &#8216;Hey, buddy!&#8217; Now, I&#8217;ve called God many things in my life, including friend and lover, but this was the first time I&#8217;d used buddy, and I felt rather embarrassed by it. </p>
<p>I narrate this because it illustrates a question that is both practical and theological: to which of two spontaneous movements should a spiritual director give more attention? Which thread should they follow? </p>
<p>The issue often surfaces for directors once they have mastered the art of attentive listening. So much arises in a spiritual direction session and offers itself for exploration. The knack that we all struggle to acquire is that of winnowing the wheat from the chaff. How do we, during a session, encourage and develop those strands of a directee&#8217;s experience that are leading somewhere good, and how do we let go of those that aren&#8217;t? In this case, which way to go: socks or buddy? Do we have a rule of thumb? And do we have a rationale for our instruction and practice?
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		<title>Looking at God Looking at You: Ignatius&#8217; Third Addition</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I've just been wrapping up an article for the British Jesuit's spirituality journal <a href="http://www.theway.org.uk/">The Way</a>. The paper is about spiritual direction and the choices a director makes to follow one thread and set aside others. It should appear in January 2006. 

Some time back (October 2004) I published another paper in The Way, this time on a relatively neglected suggestion found in <a href="http://www.jesuit.org/images/docs/915dWg.pdf">The Spiritual Exercises</a> of <a href="http://www.jesuit.org.uk/spirituality.htm">St Ignatius Loyola</a>. The suggestion in question is this:

<blockquote>A step or two in front of the place where I am to contemplate or meditate, I will stand for the length of an Our Father, raising my mind above and considering how God our Lord is looking at me, etc., and make an act of reverence or humility.</blockquote>

I try to show that buried in this rather dry injunction is a rich spirituality of personal relationship with God. You can <a href="http://rmarsh.com/?dl=looking.pdf">download a PDF version</a> or read on...<p>Post from: <a href="http://rmarsh.com">All Things Seen and Unseen</a><br/><br/><a href="http://rmarsh.com/2005/11/06/looking-at-god-looking-at-you/">Looking at God Looking at You: Ignatius&#8217; Third Addition</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A step or two in front of the place where I am to contemplate or meditate, I will stand for the length of an Our Father, raising my mind above and considering how God our Lord is looking at me, etc., and make an act of reverence or humility.… un paso o dos antes del lugar donde tengo de contemplar o meditar, me pondré en pie, por espacio de un Pater noster, alzado el entendimiento arriba, considerando cómo Dios nuestro Señor me mira, etc., y hacer una reverencia o humiliación. (Exx 75)</p></blockquote>
<p>THIS IS ONE OF THE IGNATIAN ‘ADDITIONS’ or ‘Additional Directions’—general guidelines ‘for making the Exercises better and finding more readily what one desires’ (Exx 73.1). Ignatius has just been mentioning the remote preparation for a day of prayer—what to do on falling asleep and what to do on rising. He will go on to talk about posture, about the review of prayer, and about the maintenance of a suitable mood in the retreat situation. Here, however, he is discussing what will help someone make each exercise better, what will help them find more readily what they desire. What Ignatius says here is intended for <em>every</em> prayer or spiritual exercise we make.</p>
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<p>This may seem surprising. Especially outside retreat, relatively few of us observe this directive. I want nevertheless to argue that this third Addition not only helps us make the Exercises better, but also gives us a perspective which is absolutely vital for a correct appreciation of Ignatian spirituality. Ignatius is putting his finger here on a neuralgic issue which pains every aspect of our prayer, of our lives, and of the way we speak to one another about God. Ignatius both identifies the issue, and offers an antidote.</p>
<h2>Mind-Blindness and Autism</h2>
<p>As is well known, children up to the age of four cannot handle the idea that other people have other minds with independent contents. A three-year-old believes that everyone knows what they know and sees what they see. The psychologists call it mind-blindness. Somewhere between the ages of three and four, children shed their mind-blindness, and begin to work out that other people have their own sets of desires and knowledge and expectations. They develop what the literature calls a ‘theory of mind’. </p>
<p>But some children never develop an adequate theory of mind and stay more or less mind-blind all their lives. We call this condition autism. Autistic children are able to deal with other people on one level, but they never make the leap into other people’s heads to see things their way. They never understand that someone else is a person like themselves, with independent knowledge, intentions and feelings. Thus they become frustrated at the unpredictability of their environment, and seek to impose some shape by ritual and repetition. They are prone to stubbornness, and to tantrums when things are changed out of their usual pattern.</p>
<p>Autism is a good image for how most of us are in prayer. We tend to be mind-blind about God. We think that God knows simply what we know, sees simply what we see; and consequently we rarely stop to ask God what God <em>actually</em> sees or knows or feels. We find it hard to let God enter our prayer as a real living person; instead, we misuse the name ‘God’ to denote a projection of what <em>we</em> think and feel. At the very least this image sums up how I personally am in prayer. I am spiritually autistic—mind-blind about God. You might not be. You might be very different from me. But let me go on to speak of my own experience and you can judge for yourselves. </p>
<p>Like an autistic child, I go about my prayer in a whole set of ways that try to minimise the chaos of my inner life by finding rituals and rules to tame my inner experience. I focus on my own needs and intentions, my own desires and insights, my own consolations and desolations. Most of my prayer consists of me thinking, or me feeling, me speaking, or me being silent. Some of the time I may pay lip service to my <em>notional</em> commitment to the belief that God enters my prayer as a person. I certainly spend quite a lot of inner time addressing something I <em>call</em> God. But in fact, this internal rehearsal of my experience tends to swing between two modes of speech: either I talk to myself or I talk to my idea of God. Of course it is not all talking—I operate in quieter ways too, through a kind of interior looking, or just sitting. And sometimes I read or paint or write. But these activities only extend and modulate the pattern; they do not fundamentally change it. Not that this ‘prayer’ is dull; it can be lovely, or horrible, depending upon my mood or upon what is going on in the rest of my life. But what it remains, fundamentally, is <em>mine</em>—my thoughts, my feelings, my words, my silence.</p>
<p>Thus when my spiritual director asks me how God has <em>responded</em> to my inner talk, I tend not to know. I have not let God interrupt me. I don’t just mean that I talk and talk and never listen—‘Listen, Lord, your servant is speaking’. But even when I am <em>trying</em> to listen, even when I am sincerely asking for an answer to some deep question, I tend in fact to ask, and then go straight on to mulling over several possible answers that God might have given already, rather than asking God and waiting for an answer. </p>
<p>I am, by nature, mind-blind where God is concerned. I do not really expect God to have a point of view about my inner experience—or about my outer experience for that matter. On the odd occasion when I get beyond this blindness, I still approach God’s point of view abstractly. I wonder what kind of thing God <em>ought</em> to see or feel or believe, rather than trying to discover what God is actually seeing, feeling and believing. I am concerned with what God <em>would </em>say rather than with what God <em>does </em>say. And even when I expect more, even when my heart has been opened to the possibility that God might appear in my prayer as a real person with real feelings, desires and needs—even then, all the rituals of my inner autism are so strong that following through is a struggle. </p>
<p>I have not always been aware of this disability in myself. I am not reconciled to it. If you had asked me fifteen years ago whether I thought God was present and active in my prayer, I am sure that I would have given a resoundingly affirmative answer. Back then, I did not think that I was spiritually mind-blind but, looking back from where I stand now, I reckon I was. </p>
<p>At that time, I had had some training in spiritual direction, and I had even done some training of others. One of the standard textbooks that I read, and that I got others to read, was <em>The Practice of Spiritual Direction</em> by William Barry and William Connolly.(New York: Seabury, 1983). Now I read it, and I see that the book is occupied on every page with how to foster just the non-autistic experience of God that I am talking about. Back then, I would have told you that I believed it and practised what they were saying; but, truth to tell, if that actually was the case, it was more by accident than design. As a director I rarely asked the kinds of questions that got people in touch with the real living God of their experience; instead I was satisfied with getting them to reflect on their <em>own</em> experience. If it ever contained the real, surprising God this was a happy accident. My spiritual mind-blindness runs deep. And what is worse, I am always thinking that I have got over it.</p>
<h2>The Prison of Modernity</h2>
<p>Why am I like this? Perhaps the answers are personal: I happen to be a sad soul who is developmentally challenged in this area. But I doubt it. Let me be bold and venture the opinion that everyone I have seen for spiritual direction or guided retreat suffers from mind-blindness to some degree. Spiritual autism is a pathology of our times. We do not allow God to be a living presence—a real subject—in our lives, because we have been trained by our culture to believe that God cannot, or at least does not, behave in that way.</p>
<p>A phrase such as ‘our culture’ is, of course, a little imperialistic. I mean the modern culture of the educated Western world. People who write about such things—we might call them cultural analysts—use the word modern in a very specific way. They do not mean up-to-date or recent. Rather, they are referring to a cultural trend that has been going on for centuries in the West, probably beginning around 500 years ago. According to this reckoning, Ignatius himself lived at the dawn of modernity, and he is its archetypal saint. </p>
<p>This version of modernity has a number of characteristic outlooks that we tend to take for granted, or at least that we find ourselves having to fight against. Let me mention four of them, four cultural attitudes which predispose us to mind-blindness about God. Two of them concern the nature of the human person; two affect our outlook on God. Together, I believe, they set us up to be spiritually mind-blind.</p>
<h2>Individualism</h2>
<p>First, we tend to see ourselves as individuals and to behave as individualists. When the medievals wanted to ground their knowledge they looked to other people. They looked to tradition. They looked to authorities. But subsequent philosophy has looked in a different place. It has turned to the individual, to the subject. What can <em>I</em> know? What can <em>I</em> be certain of? How can I overcome illusion? How can I be free from other people’s false ideas? These are the issues that fascinate us still. How can I be free? How can I make up my own mind? What does my own experience say about this or that? Who am I in myself?</p>
<p>Instead of valuing where we come from, we are concerned with who we can make ourselves into. Instead of valuing our parents’ patterns of life, we want to express our own uniqueness. Instead of valuing quiet suffering, we want to get therapy that will make us better. On the whole, we are subjective, expressive, therapeutic individualists. No wonder my prayer is all about me, me, me. </p>
<h2>Doubt</h2>
<p>If I ever start to take seriously the idea that God might appear in my prayer with thoughts and feelings of God’s own, a second modern outlook rushes in with objections. We have been brought up to doubt, to be sceptical. Modernity has been obsessed with the question of method. How do I become sure about what I believe? And it has tended to lean on the side of doubt. We wonder how we can be sure of anything. We do not want to be tricked by our own quirks. How do I know that this is God, and not just wishful thinking? How do I know that the words I hear are words from God, and not projections of my inner needs? After Freud and Marx, we know better than ever the many ways in which we can be mistaken, often unconsciously. So is it not better to believe as little as possible? Should I not stick with my own experience and keep God out of it? It is difficult enough to make claims about my own experience; what kind of crank starts to make claims about what God might be saying to them? No wonder I do not make great claims about my prayer; no wonder I keep it simple. I stay the level of reflection on my own experience, and avoid the risk of making a fool of myself by believing that God might speak.</p>
<h2>Divine Action</h2>
<p>Philosophy has spent 500 years struggling with the problem of knowledge, theology has spent that time worrying about divine action. What place does God have in the world? What can God, in concrete physical terms, actually do? Do we believe in miracles? Is the world not, rather, a disenchanted mechanism? </p>
<p>The caricature of the medieval world portrays it as rife with superstition, with angels and demons around every corner. The coming of modernity has banished angels and demons to chocolate boxes and television screens. Perhaps this is a relief. But what has been lost is a sense that God can be a part of everyday human experience. Science has pushed God to the edges of our culture. Newton thought that his clockwork solar system ran pretty smoothly on its own, with God providing the occasional necessary top-up. Then Laplace did the maths, and found that the planets got on very well all alone, thank you. When asked about God, his reaction was politely dismissive: ‘Sir, I have no need of that hypothesis’. Over the past 500 years we have tended to find, over and again, that we have no need of God. God has been pushed into the distance. And the idea of God has been watered down, tamed. The interfering tyrant with a finger in every pie has become a remote and impersonal first cause. Not the kind of God whom I expect to express opinions in my prayer.</p>
<h2>God as Person</h2>
<p>Which brings us to the question of whether God is a person. This is not really a modern problem: it is much older. On retreat people often ask, ‘why do I need to tell God that—God knows everything already?’ If God is unchanging, all-knowing, and uniformly benevolent, how can I expect God to have moods, feelings, desires, needs even, which God expresses in my prayer? Why communicate with such a God? What effect could I possibly expect to have upon this God? God might be watching me, but what sense does it make to consider <em>how</em> God is looking at me?</p>
<h2>Ignatius and Modernity’s Pitfalls</h2>
<p>Ignatius and his <em>Spiritual Exercises</em> date from the beginning of the cultural trend that we call modernity. Ignatius has one foot firmly planted in the medieval world, with the other standing in the modern era. Ignatius’ genius, I believe, is to offer an outlook, a spirituality, which is at home in modernity and yet avoids its pitfalls. The third Addition sums up his outlook. Here Ignatius is giving not only an orientation for any kind of prayer or spiritual exercise, but also a pointer to how we should shape our whole way of life. We are to begin by spending a moment considering how God is looking at us, and we are to respond with an act of reverence. Very simply, Ignatius is inviting us constantly to include <em>God</em> in our theory of mind, constantly to let God be really real.</p>
<p>We do not begin our prayer alone as individuals; we begin with <em>someone else</em> looking at us. We will rapidly move on to the <em>‘id quod volo’</em>, the grace that I desire. But first we experience, for a moment, that <em>we are desired</em>, that we begin outside ourselves, that who we are is not self-generated. We are not self-made men and women. We <em>receive </em>ourselves, in the eyes of another. In this way, Ignatius defuses our individualism. </p>
<p>He subverts our doubt, too. We start our epistemology with doubt; Ignatius begins his with trust—not trust as the opposite of doubt, but trust that subverts doubt. We doubt our senses. We doubt the facts. We doubt ourselves. But Ignatius does not want us to start our prayer in the realm of facts and data and things; he points us towards the realm of relationship. Relationship, to be real, always begins in trust, and breathes trust as its atmosphere. We are right to doubt <em>things</em>, but right to trust <em>persons</em>. </p>
<p>All relationships demand a basic trust. Trust can be tempered by experience; in some cases it must be toned down, or even withdrawn. But unless we can trust at least some of the time, we remain alone and isolated. As is well known, Ignatius is no advocate of credulity. Not all our experience is experience of God. We are moved by many spirits, good and bad, and Ignatius provides the guidelines for telling them apart in his methods of discernment. But discernment only operates in an atmosphere of prior trust—only when we admit an experience and let it develop do we have the grounds for discernment. You cannot discern from a distance. You have to get involved, to take the risk; only on that basis can you assess the feedback and make the adjustment. Discernment implies relationship.</p>
<p>In the third Addition, Ignatius invites us into a complex, relational reality. If God is looking at us, God is in relationship with us. As we try to understand this relationship, we can focus either on God or on ourselves. We can consider what it is like to be looked at. How am I feeling? We can also consider the God who is looking, and what that God is like. How is God feeling? As we move between these two ways of responding to Ignatius’ invitation, they begin to fuse, to enrich each other, to be woven into something intricate and beautiful. I am looking at God looking at me looking at God. When I look at the God who looks at me, it is not a matter simply of seeing the other as one object among many, but of looking, gazing, contemplating. We <em>see</em> each other. The look transforms—it is <em>encounter</em>.</p>
<p>This encounter is a touchstone. Modernity doubts that God can act, and doubts that God is a person. Ignatius is asking whether we can move beyond our doubt. Can we <em>discover</em> a God who <em>can</em> act and who <em>is</em> a person? When I pause and consider and look at God looking at me, who do I find looking back? That is a question for experience, not for theory. </p>
<p>Some translations of the third Addition read ‘consider <em>that</em> God is looking at me …’. This reading is linguistically possible, but it misses the real point. The brute fact in itself might be enough to dispel the problem of individualism and the problem of doubt, but we need something more. We need to see <em>how</em> God is looking at us. Not in general, not in principle, not in the abstract—but here and now and specifically. Is our God is a living person with thoughts and feelings of God’s own, and not just an extension of our own thinking and feeling?</p>
<p>Once people have discovered the living God, they often discover too that their experience in prayer is not totally malleable. It has a stubborn shape. The God of their prayer is not totally projected. Prayer starts to get surprising. The bush burns, but it is not consumed. You ask a question, and get an answer that shocks you. You search in one place, but God is in another. You are feeling one thing, but God feels another. </p>
<p>When prayer becomes an encounter with the living God, it becomes unpredictable. You thought you were doing something relatively safe—praying—and instead you find yourself face to face with someone real. Fierce or fond, bright or dark (who knows?), but it is someone other and someone real—not yourself. Ignatius wants every spiritual exercise to be an encounter with the living God, another knot in the web of relationship woven in the gaze that passes between you and God.</p>
<p>Today God is smiling. Tomorrow God is sad. The day after God might be sleeping, or dancing, or weeping, or angry. I cannot know how God is looking at me without looking at God. I cannot make up the answer, or guess it, or remember how it was. The only way to do what Ignatius asks is to turn the inner gaze on God and see, here and now, how God is actually looking back … at me. </p>
<p>It is in this way that Ignatius wants each one of us to step into prayer every time. All Ignatian prayer begins with the encounter with the living God. Only thus can the identification of personal desires be more than selfishness or individualistic therapy. Thus it is that Ignatian colloquy can become real conversation, ‘friend to friend’, rather than a hesitant monologue. Only through this encounter do all the annotations, procedures and processes make sense. This central conviction also governs Ignatius’ laconic dictum: ‘acts of the will require more reverence than acts of the intellect’ (Exx 3.3). Because of this encounter, Ignatius can expect the Spiritual Exercises to be a rollercoaster ride of alternating spiritual motions. This encounter also tells us why generosity is the prime prerequisite for making the Exercises well.</p>
<p>The whole First Week can be seen as a simple development of this attitude to prayer. Can I discover myself in the eyes of God? Can I come to see myself the way God sees me—honestly and benevolently? Me, with all the fragments, all the shame and all the glory, caught in a gaze of love, and invited into companionship with Jesus?</p>
<p>This article has been couched in the language of vision throughout—looking, gazing, seeing, contemplating. But you could substitute any of the other senses. Many of us know God imaginatively through sound: we hear God speak. Others sense God by touch; they could not tell you how God looks at them for all the tea in China, but they know the weight of God’s hand on their shoulder. It is the communication that matters—how it happens is secondary. Ignatius does not simply say, ‘considering how God our Lord is looking at me’; he adds what is a favourite word of his, ‘etc.’ Some translations take the ‘et cetera’ to refer to further thoughts we might have. But a richer interpretation sees it as referring to further activities in which <em>God</em> may be engaging. God is not only looking at us but interacting with us in a wide range of ways: enlightening us, communicating Godself to us, embracing us.Willem A. M. Peters, The Spiritual Exercises of St Ignatius: Exposition and Interpretation (Jersey City: Program to Adapt the Spiritual Exercises, 1968), 22-24. </p>
<p>Thus the third Addition offers more than an introductory gambit in the game of prayer. Ignatius’ God is an active God, a God not content to be a distant observer, a God intimately engaged with every person who prays. This God is miles away from the cultural caricature I presented earlier. This God can be encountered, known. This God feels, acts, interacts. This God has personality.</p>
<p>Robert R. Marsh SJ, <em>The Way</em>, 43/4 (October 2004), 19-28 </p>
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		<title>Angels, Ecology, &amp; Virtual Reality</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some time ago I began to be interested in the interface between theology and spirituality and, in particular, the place they meet in cosmology. Theological cosmology, as i think of it, is not in the mainstream of theological study but I believe it deserves to be as it holds the clues to a fresh approach to some common theological impasses.

The paper which follows was written out of a striking experience of 'spirit of place'. Everyone I've asked has their own experiences when a place and time become unexpectedly sacred for them. This is the phenomenon that provoked me to begin to explore what kind of 'spirit' makes sense of such experience. I rapidly found it is a conception of spirit that sends roots in two directions: into our theories of the world and into our theories of God. Hence theological cosmology.

Theology is often ridiculed by invoking the mythical question 'how many angels can dance on the head of a pin' but i believe there's an unintended profundity here. It asks how spirit and place are related. That's a question of intense ecological significance. 

If you are interested read on...<p>Post from: <a href="http://rmarsh.com">All Things Seen and Unseen</a><br/><br/><a href="http://rmarsh.com/2005/08/23/angels-ecology-virtual-reality/">Angels, Ecology, &#38; Virtual Reality</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the summer of 1995 in Montana, outside the little town of Chinook, I found myself surprised by another world. Vacation sightseeing tends toward idle gawking at landscape, “natural” or “artificial,” taking it in for pleasure, and moving on. Here, however, the landscape reached out and took me in and moved me at a far deeper level. Waist deep in prairie, enveloped by grasses not yet browned by summer, everywhere my turning gaze found only distance and sky. I felt that I ought to have been delighted by the beauty, yet what moved me was an intense and old sadness, a melancholy beyond words. This was the <em>Chief Joseph Battleground</em>, witness to the deaths of many: many people, many hopes.  At intervals slender metal rods had been hammered into the earth like so many nails and each one bore—in a circular engraving—a name, several names, of those who had fallen and bled in that place. Some rods had become shrines, now marked with medicine bags and fragments of stone and feather and flower. Some stood alone, askew, while the wind whispered in the grass. Silence, space, and sadness.<br />
Does a place have a spirit? A <em>genius loci</em>, in the old sense; “a strong and dominant angel?” I know I approached that place with a knowledge of its history. Would it have so moved me without? I know the depth and the timbre of the inner motion took me by surprise: I arrived a tourist and left a pilgrim. The land itself seemed to speak with a silent voice at odds with its beauty. Somehow nature and history came together in that place to shape a world of significance that could draw me in, a world between the objective and the subjective, a world where the visible and the invisible met in imaginal existence.  Such a world, being a matter of imagination, engages human feeling deeply—we cannot but be affectively inclined towards or away from it. It is a world of significance for us. But is the significance <em>significant?</em> Should we let it guide us or should we pass it off as trivial?<br />
There is, I believe, a crucial question here. The modern period has sundered the imagination. The natural and the human have fallen apart and generated an unruly family of feuding dualisms. And, somewhere in the gap that has been opened, the religious imagination has been lost.  As a result, it seems difficult to speak of the spirit of a place without reducing that spirit to one pole or the other: objective / subjective; real / unreal; materialist / romantic; etc. But if land and place and earth have no spirit, if they cannot speak and move our hearts and touch our minds, what hope do we, or they, have for survival? It is the modern blight that we treat “nature” as a voiceless commodity and the post-modern misfortune that we live under the fear of the consequences.  The deadened earth is dying and we are killing ourselves as we kill the land.<br />
But why shouldn’t we treat the land this way? What can keep us from ecological destruction? </p>
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		<title>Theology and Experience @ Liverpool Living Theology</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This end-of the-day slot and its title, 'Talk on Theology and Experience', poses a bit of a problem: isn't there something contradictory or at least a bit disjointed about 'talk' and 'experience. We talk before an experience and we talk after it but when our experience is underway we are somehow too busy to be talking about it--we are doing it, being it, living it. If we keep stopping to analyze our experience we never get to have any. But if we never talk about our experience we never really understand it, we never grasp its significance, or let its significance shape our lives.
Anyway, it's my task to introduce the sessions that will follow on the other afternoons this week by saying something today to get you thinking and talking about theology and experience and the relationship between the two...<p>Post from: <a href="http://rmarsh.com">All Things Seen and Unseen</a><br/><br/><a href="http://rmarsh.com/2005/07/25/theology-and-experience-liverpool-living-theology/">Theology and Experience @ Liverpool Living Theology</a></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This end-of the-day slot and its title, ‘Talk on Theology and Experience’, poses a bit of a problem: isn’t there something contradictory or at least a bit disjointed about ‘talk’ and ‘experience’. We talk before an experience and we talk after it but when our experience is underway we are somehow too busy to be talking about it—we are doing it, being it, living it. If we keep stopping to analyze our experience we never get to have any. But if we never talk about our experience we never really understand it, we never grasp its significance, or let its significance shape our lives.<br />
Anyway, it’s my task to introduce the sessions that will follow on the other afternoons this week by saying something today to get you thinking and talking about theology and experience and the relationship between the two.<br />
I thought it was only fair to start with something both experiential and theological: a brief memory exercise.<br />
It’s this: can you name for yourself just one thing you know about God? Could be anything. Big or small. Just see what comes to mind. …<br />
That was part one. Part two is similar: can you name for yourself something you know about God because someone told you or taught you? Might be same answer. Might be different. …<br />
Finally: can you name for yourself something you know about God from your own experience? That might be harder or it might be easier. …<br />
Now the talk bit: turn to your neighbour and tell each other some of those things you know about God. Just listen and notice. Very briefly. A couple of minutes.<br />
There! If theology is talk about God we’ve just done some—or at least started to.<br />
When it comes to theology, experience is a contentious issue. What does theology have to do with experience? I asked that a few days ago in our community room and the answer was ‘everything’! But, for some people, theology is the prime example of a subject that is total nonsense: completely isolated from and irrelevant to day-to-day experience. Or read the papers these days and you’ll find religious belief represented as a kind of dangerous fanaticism that flies in the face of common human experience and human dignity.<br />
And, even within Christian circles, experience and theology seem to get set against each other. Look at the Anglican Church’s current battles over women bishops or gay bishops. What weight does the experience of the ministry of women or gay people have when balanced against the heft of revelation embodied in scripture and tradition? How do you put the two into conversation? And who is to arbitrate the outcome and on what grounds?<br />
The relation of experience and authority has a particular poignancy for a Jesuit. Ignatius suffered accusations from both sides. He was suspected for many years of being a heretic who taught that the experience of God was a better guide than the Church. He spent many a night in ecclesiastical prisons over it and went to great lengths to get his orthodoxy attested. All this shaped his destiny, sending him off to study theology so he could have the credentials to keep helping others find God in their own experience. And yet in his manual for retreat givers there’s an infamous and embarrassing section on how to think with the church which says, among other things, ‘what seems to me to be white, I will believe to be black if the hierarchical Church thus determines it’.<br />
How can one man be both so trusting in experience and so careful to lay it aside when authority says otherwise? Jesuit theologians still find themselves hammered on that anvil.<br />
The question for us today is how far can our experience reveal to us anything about God? Because I’d take a bet we believe it can. Ignatius himself in his pilgrim testament says, after a series of mystical visions of the Trinity and the sacraments, even if there were no scriptures to teach such things he would be resolved to die for them.<br />
We do tend to believe our eyes. We want to know for ourselves and not just because someone tells us. Yet we acknowledge both the power of illusion and the need for expert witnesses.<br />
In fact most of our daily living is based on the agreement of experience and authority: we expect the sun to rise because it always has and because we have been told about the earth’s rotation. We trust ourselves to elevators both because our experience assures us they’re worth the risk and because we trust the inventor, the builder and the maintenance crew. But it only takes one brush with disaster and we stick to the stairs for ever after.<br />
Experience has the power to impel us. What we have experienced we believe with a force of feeling that can change our lives. You can master any number of texts on the psychology and physiology of human interaction but only the experience of being in love will melt your heart.<br />
You can know the tradition, quote scripture verbatim, and have read every theologian from Augustine to Zizoulias yet not have a knowledge of God that changes your life.<br />
I think everyone would accept that our experience can affect the way we live what we believe. But how does our experience influence the content of what we believe?<br />
Experience and belief are intimately intertwined. See a young man in a hoody running at you and what you experience will depend on whether you read the Daily Mail or you are expecting your long-lost nephew. On the other hand no amount of faith will save you if you step off a cliff.<br />
So experience is a kind of trump card. Science has taught us the power of experiment to destroy any number of daft, or even obviously true, theories. What about theology? Is theology a science? And even if it were what would it be the science of? There’s something very elusive and difficult in the idea we experience God. God is more than a little beyond our experience. God isn’t a thing alongside other things for us to experience in the same way. In that sense God does not exist at all. You could search the universe and catalogue every atom and not find God hiding anywhere. And yet we believe that God is to be experienced. Not forensically maybe. But there all the same, mediated through all those created things. We Jesuit’s make our living helping people find God in all things, helping them sift their experience for signs of God, helping them live with what they find. If you spend your days sitting across from people of faith and people of none as they talk about their experience and their sense of the sacred you can’t doubt God is to be found anywhere you care to look. And not just lurking in the shadows but leaping up and down, longing for attention. God, it seems to me, is eager to reveal herself.<br />
Does that mean we can all do our own thing and set up our own religions? Be our own gurus? It’s a great way to be tax-exempt!<br />
One of the other things you learn as a spiritual director is that Ignatius was right when he passed on what he had learned: our experience cannot be taken at face value. For Ignatius our experience is rarely neutral; it is always leading us somewhere. What happens to us, what we feel, what we think, our desires and our fears—all the moving inside us that measures our experience—all that is either nudging us a step deeper into God or a step further away. Our experience is polarized that way. You might be able to perform neutral experiments to measure gravity but a religious reading of our experience is going to demand what Ignatius calls discernment: a decision about the origin and direction of the experience. Because some experience is misleading when it speaks of God and some is trustworthy. There are signs to look for, symptoms of the spirits we follow, but discerning them demands a peculiar and contemplative attitude. You have to trust the experience enough to let it breathe and show its colours but doubt it enough to hold it provisional. Neither suspicious nor credulous. Subtle as serpents and gentle as doves.<br />
And that attitude is very hard to maintain alone—impossible I’d venture. Spiritual discernment is done in company. Our experience of God only gains weight in community. We can only trust ourselves when we trust others to trust us.<br />
I started out opposing experience and revelation as alternate sources for our knowledge of God but where does revelation come from but someone’s experience; someone’s experience a community has discerned and made their own? What is scripture but the written trace of countless experiences we have together deemed reliable and revelatory? We do not properly approach our Sunday worship with a sceptical attitude. There’s something about belonging to a faith community that means we go to hear and be spoken to by scripture and tradition. We start by acknowledging the word’s right to address us and shape our experience. But that right is ultimately something we recognize and confer. When scripture or tradition loses its authority over our experience it is up to our experience and our creativity to make something new from it.<br />
A currently contested aspect of scripture concerns the gender of God. Think about it for a moment and you know God is beyond gender just as God is beyond colour or weight. But tradition and scripture have solidified around God as very emphatically Father. But there is a generation of women and men who cannot hear God as exclusively ‘He’ without wondering about the power, politics and oppression embedded in the text and supported by it. That experience has demanded a new attention to an aspect of the text that wasn’t visible to previous generations and any number of interesting theological developments have followed—interesting and still under discernment. We are still living with the consequences for our liturgy for example. And some people—in low and high places—are outraged. It can be ecclesiastically quite ‘dangerous’ to call God Mother.<br />
But what would it be like if we as churches took seriously the experience of groups who have been traditionally un-noticed or un-admitted? Those whose experience has not had the chance yet to become tradition.<br />
Maybe you find yourself in such a position: female, or gay, or poor, or young, or handicapped—name your niche. Or maybe you occupy the centre ground. Either way what has your experience to say to theology? How is your experience a source for theology?<br />
I want to follow all this talk of experience with just a little talk of theology. I’ve been taking it for granted that we know what the word means, but ask a roomful of theologians what theology is—or is about—and you can be sure the fur will fly.<br />
I do want to say a couple of things, though, about theology that seem to me important. They kind of follow from what I’ve said about experience. If theology is God-talk, why do we talk of God? I think the only sensible answer is because God has already been talking to us. Theology is always a response to God’s activity in the world of our experience. Even if it is the perceived absence or absurdity of that experience. We do theology because we must—because silence won’t satisfy.<br />
We might think we are amateurs where theology is concerned. And I hope that is right. Long before theology was an academic discipline, the experts where not the ones who pondered and disputed but the ones who prayed. Theology was what you said about God when you had been yourself encountered in prayer. Spirituality hadn’t been invented then. Mysticism hadn’t been thought of. There was just theology: the proper domain of amateurs—those who love what they do.<br />
The same cultural shift that makes us divide touchy-feely spirituality from academically rigorous theology also makes us think of prayer as something purely private and personal. But a theology that grows out of our experience is a communal enterprise. Both in the way a community ratifies and recognizes itself in that experience and comes to define itself through it and in the way that experience is disputed and worth arguing over.<br />
Theology is communal because it is about communication. It’s always a dialogue, a conversation—often a hubbub. And that means disagreement is unavoidable. In fact it is essential. I said earlier, after asking you to tell your neighbour what you know about God, that that was theology or at least its start. Theology only really starts when the telling turns into misunderstanding.<br />
We start from different places and we hardly know what we know until we try to tell someone else. There are two extreme ways of handling the hubbub. One is to suppress it in the interests of unity and change from conversation to monologue. That’s theology as experts explaining things to idiots. At the other extreme the conversation splinters into loads of little huddles where the like-minded agree with each other and ignore or despise those who differ.<br />
You can tell I don’t think either approach is adequate to theology or experience. I think theology demands both openness and discipline. Openness to listen as well as speak. Openness to other voices and other experiences. Openness to tradition. Openness to discovery. Openness to being wrong.<br />
Discipline is about the desire for truth—or at least the fear of falsehood. How do we check out our experience of God but by talking about it, finding its echoes in tradition and scripture, hearing it affirmed by our community, letting it be criticized, corrected, and creatively remade.<br />
After all theology is about God … who is above all else creative: creative and constant and eager to communicate.<br />
So where does that leave us?<br />
What if you turned back now to your neighbour from before and let them know how their knowledge of God sits with your experience? What if you explored that? Then we might truly be doing some living theology.</p>
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